People’s default setting is to stay in their bubbles, yes. But I’m hoping that we can actually get people to talk through the issue in an honest non-emotional way, and see if any resolution could be had, vs. what we get now, the repeated daily posts of raw emotion to enhance conflict and prevent good discussion.
If you’re not aware of it, LessWrong is a good forum for enhancing your knowledge via discussion in a rational way. Unfortunately the majority don’t want logical discussion, as there’s no direct benefit to them in the short-term and it’s much harder to think that way and you’ll be excluded from your ingroup because you’re going against the grain.
You can lead a horse to water, you can’t make them think deeply about ‘boring’ things.
You can lead a horse to water, you can’t make them think deeply about ‘boring’ things.
You might be right. But at the end of the day, when everything goes to shit, at the very least I can honestly look into the mirror and like what is looking back, someone who tried to make things better. /shrug
You might be right. But at the end of the day, when everything goes to shit, at the very least I can honestly look into the mirror and like what is looking back, someone who tried to make things better.
That’s a good point. I need to stop being so jaded, it never leads to anything positive.
But it is hard, having fought time and time again to get a single person to halfway see the reason. I can only hope that a seed has been planted when I do, and eventually it will grow.
That’s a good point. I need to stop being so jaded, it never leads to anything positive.
For sure its not easy, especially when there are those with a personal interest to have anarchy via psyops/propaganda, but its something we all really need to strive for.
But it is hard, having fought time and time again to get a single person to halfway see the reason. I can only hope that a seed has been planted when I do, and eventually it will grow.
That’s all we can do really. That, and participate, again for no other reason than for self-respect. Any extra good that comes out of that is just a bonus.
People’s default setting is to stay in their bubbles, yes. But I’m hoping that we can actually get people to talk through the issue in an honest non-emotional way, and see if any resolution could be had, vs. what we get now, the repeated daily posts of raw emotion to enhance conflict and prevent good discussion.
If you’re not aware of it, LessWrong is a good forum for enhancing your knowledge via discussion in a rational way. Unfortunately the majority don’t want logical discussion, as there’s no direct benefit to them in the short-term and it’s much harder to think that way and you’ll be excluded from your ingroup because you’re going against the grain.
You can lead a horse to water, you can’t make them think deeply about ‘boring’ things.
Thank you. I had not heard of it before, I’ll check it out.
Edit: This was an interesting read.
You might be right. But at the end of the day, when everything goes to shit, at the very least I can honestly look into the mirror and like what is looking back, someone who tried to make things better. /shrug
That’s a good point. I need to stop being so jaded, it never leads to anything positive.
But it is hard, having fought time and time again to get a single person to halfway see the reason. I can only hope that a seed has been planted when I do, and eventually it will grow.
For sure its not easy, especially when there are those with a personal interest to have anarchy via psyops/propaganda, but its something we all really need to strive for.
That’s all we can do really. That, and participate, again for no other reason than for self-respect. Any extra good that comes out of that is just a bonus.
That’s a favorite of mine, and also a good way to show the honest, rational debate of LessWrong. Has “politics is the mind-killer” been a mind-killer?
GreaterWrong is a nicer way to read LessWrong, IMO.
Thanks for that too.
Damn, you’re really sending me down the rabbit hole. 🤔 😀