Yes, that Sasha 🍉

Non-binary 🏳️‍⚧️⬛🟪⬜🟨🏳️‍⚧️
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Definitely an anarchist, and an egalitarian

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Cake day: December 12th, 2023

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  • Ah I understand.

    I’m not talking about that either, and I’m not against automating jobs. I’m more talking about preventing unecessary harm, I don’t really want to say who I work for but our company will shutdown entire storefronts and just lie about why. The union works to ensure this sort of thing doesn’t happen unfairly, and that people have access to the legal support they need when it does, among other things.

    The reality is that they aren’t working bullshit jobs, and we don’t automate everything they do. Even the things we do automate require their constant help to support, but the business doesn’t care and will just fire them because they see some vague report suggesting they can.

    Creating jobs is much harder, of course, but there are things we can and should do to make sure transitioning people out of those jobs is as painless as possible. I’m honestly of the opinion that we shouldn’t have to have jobs to survive, and that pushing for good social support is a necessary part of increasing automation.

    As a loosely related aside, even though my job doesn’t qualify for being bullshit, I definitely feel like I’m wasting my life doing it, but I have no other choice except dying.


  • Is it our responsibility to help people? I think it is if we’re helping to hurt them. While we can technically throw the blame up the corporate chain, I think we need to have personal responsibility for our actions, I understand that you, as I do, likely rely on your job to exist, but we can still push for the least harm possible.

    If you advocate up said chain on behalf of others, then that is good too.

    I’m aware of what this technology can do, I actively use some to help with my work. But I make sure it’s as ethical as it can be.

    And AI art is not really all that useful. Just because you can automate art doesn’t mean it’s a waste. I think that’s a dreadfully bleak view.

    Helping funding research is great and all, but maybe they should pay all the people they’re stealing from? Or at the very least get consent.


  • You just described the problem back to me, artists should get paid for creating, I don’t think being paid for something you love takes away from it, but that’s an opinion and I understand people have their own. I think that’s just an extension of the beauty of art (having our own opinions about it). Profit motives are the exact problem here, not a justification to make it worse.

    If Adobe is doing that, then that’s awesome. If they’re making tools to replace artists, instead of tools to help them, significantly less awesome.

    My problem is that lots of tools do exist that replace artists, and most do steal their training data. I would love for these things to change, maybe we’ll make it out okay, but we need to make noise.