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Ah, it’s not even on by default.

So don’t turn it on.

Especially given that this particular comment is 90% quotes from some other author.

We’ve got LLMs now that can do that. Sorry, you’ve been replaced. Please gather your things into this box and cheer up.

Sounds like a purity spiral may be revving up.

Better than having people get convicted based on fake evidence, though.

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When I first started colorizing photos back in 2015, some of the reactions I got were, well, pretty intense. I remember people sending me these long, passionate emails, accusing me of falsifying and manipulating history.

So this is hardly an AI-specific issue. It’s always been something to be on guard for. As others in this thread have pointed out, Stalin was airbrushing out political rivals from photos back in the 30s. Heck damnatio memoriae goes back as far as history itself does. Ancient Pharoahs would have the names of their predecessors chiseled off of monuments so they could “claim” them as their own work.

Yeah, but this doesn’t put any restrictions on stuff, it just adds a label to it.

Indeed. There are lots of proposals for perfectly portable decentralized user identities, subscriptions that transcend specific instances, and whatnot, but until those things actually arrive that’s not the Fediverse we’re dealing with. It’s a hassle having to switch instances.

you know that a company putting a thing in their terms of service doesn’t make it legally binding, right?

And you know that doesn’t necessarily imply the reverse? Granting a site a license to use the stuff you post there is a pretty basic and reasonable thing to agree to in exchange for them letting you post stuff there in the first place.

hence why they all suddenly felt the need to update their terms of services

As others have been pointing out to you in this thread, that also is not a sign that the previous ToS didn’t cover this. They’re just being clearer about what they can do.

Go ahead and refrain from using their services if you don’t agree to the terms under which they’re offering those services. Nobody’s forcing you.

Rare-earth element is a specific technical term. Lithium is absolutely not among them.

One of the main sources lithium is extracted from is brines. That is, it’s already in the water and we take it out.

If we don’t have individual transportation how are we ever going to catch up to those goalposts?

You mean before or after all the sites updated their ToS it so that they were legally in the clear to sell user posts to AI training companies?

The ToSes would generally have a blanket permission in them to license the data to third-party companies and whatnot. I went back through historical Reddit ToS versions a little while back and that was in there from the start.

Also in there was a clause allowing them to update their ToS, so even if the blanket permission wasn’t there then it is now and you agreed to that too.

Learning from things is a very obviously a completely different process to feeding data into a server farm.

It is not very obviously different, as evidenced by the fact that it’s still being argued. There are some legal cases before the courts that will clarify this in various jurisdictions but I’m not expecting them to rule against analysis of public data.

I find that often “movements” end up focused more on just continuing their movement rather than the underlying purpose of why they started moving in the first place.

in the case of ai generated media, companies just decided that they just had the rights to use existing published media, so they harvested it without consent or compensation

Have you read the ToS of your favourite social media site lately?

In any event, it might well be that companies (and you yourself) have the rights to use existing published media to train AIs. Copyright doesn’t cover the analysis of public data. I suspect that people wouldn’t like it if copyright got extended to let IP owners prohibit you from learning from their stuff.

“Prompt engineering” is simply the skill of knowing how to correctly ask for the thing that you want. Given that this is something that is in rare supply even when interacting with other humans, I don’t see this going away until we’re well past AGI and into ASI.

You have misunderstood me. You said “Apple spent twenty years building the ecosystem Spotify and Epic want to exploit for free.” I’m pointing out that the amount of effort Apple put into building the ecosystem is immaterial to whether they’re doing illegal things with it.

And while it’s probably true that “we’re not ready”, we’re never going to become ready until the tech actually arrives and forces us to do that.

“They broke the law fair and square” is an odd defence.

That just makes my point stronger, though. The basic gist of what I was saying is that even if there is a statistical clustering of data into two groups that seem correlated with some category, that doesn’t mean that you can absolutely rely on that data to classify people into those categories.

No, we’re describing a human endeavour. If the promotional flyers had been made by outsourcing it to Fiverr and they came back wonky it would have been the same basic problem. They outsourced this and then ether didn’t have the resources or interest in checking the work that came back.