• MrZee@lemm.ee
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    Wow… I feel like “substance over form” contradicts a core sovcit belief: That there are specific magic phrases and processes that must be executed precisely to be valid. The systems in place intentionally hide, obscuring, and otherwise make it as difficult as possible for the sovcit to perform the rituals correctly. But if they do, they will “win”.

    Of course, leave it to a sovcit to find another contradictory concept to shove into the rest of their contradictory beliefs.

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      In their defense, a judge probably would try and answer basic legal questions to support a defendant who for some reason didn’t have a lawyer to ask, unless that defendant had already gone out of their way to antagonise the judge.

      Sadly, I suspect there’s a lot of overlap between people who are representing themselves and people who have annoyed the judge

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          They’re not, but there’s a difference between providing legal advice and explaining necessary procedures the pro se individual must follow, explaining that a necessary form is available online in their bank of forms, explaining that something they did is procedurally improper, etc etc. The latter is actually pretty common, just out of necessity really.

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    I wish I understood the psychology of all these SovCits who insist you should antagonize judges and police officers.

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      The basic premise is that they are itching so bad to be persecuted, but are lower middle class white people. They look at their lives and see that the thing oppressing them the most is the state, but since they’re law-abiding citizens who believe fully that if you act lawfully you can get what you want, there must be a lawful way to get out of state oppression.

      The next step is to construct an arbitrary system of belief that magically explains your view of the world is correct, and Christianity has already done the work of frying their brain into thinking this is reasonable.

      Note that at no point do they even consider that there should be no reason the oppressive state (whether that is true or not is irrelevant) doesn’t simply continue to opress them during their attempt at liberation, because the state oppressing someone is something that happens to people who do unlawful things, and they’re not doing anything unlawful, according to their belief system.

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        The basic premise is that they are itching so bad to be persecuted, but are lower middle class white people.

        Good opening, but then I think you made an error. The fact that they’re lower-middle class yet white, and this is America, must mean that the American Dream™ didn’t work for them. Then they construct reasons why it isn’t their fault, which must be state repression. The rest sorta writes itself from there.

        This doesn’t apply to the Moorish folks. I think they just see this online and latch on because they have their own brain poison.

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    I believe it’s called a Malcolm in the Middle. Generally, the defendant fails to prove that he is the boss of him, now