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    Tell your revenue stream to go fuck themselves. It’s a bold move Elon. Let’s see if it pays off.

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      You’re acting like he wants Xitter to succeed. I suspect he wants it dead because he thinks it contributed to his child being trans. And also because some of his financiers don’t want an Arab Spring.

      Edit: Either way he’s a piece of shit.

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        I used to agree with you, but now I really think he’s just a narcissist who wants the attention. If Twitter wasn’t profitable, the longer he owns it the more money he’s going to lose on top of how much he over paid for it. If he really wanted Twitter gone, he could have bought it and just… shut it off.

        Like every single techbro, he thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and demands the masses worship him for that. He just was lucky enough to have money to buy an entire platform to stroke his ego.

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    Musk responded that the advertising boycott is likely to kill the company. “What this advertising boycott is going to do is it’s going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail,”

    When Sorkin pointed out that advertisers see things differently, Musk replied, “oh yeah? Tell it to Earth.”

    Sorkin continued: “They’re going to say, Elon, that you killed the company because you said these things and they were inappropriate things and they didn’t feel comfortable on the platform. That’s what they’re going to say.”

    “And let’s see how Earth responds to that,” Musk replied.

    I mean… I think that pretty much removes any last doubt anyone might have had that Elon Musk had any grasp on the reality that he himself exists in.

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      Dude you missed quoting the best bit!

      “If somebody is going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money? Go fuck yourself,” Musk said.

      Sorkin replied, “but,” and trailed off. Musk wasn’t done. “Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey, Bob!” Musk said. Musk was apparently addressing Disney CEO Bob Iger, who previously said at the conference that advertising on X “was not necessarily a positive” association and so Disney “decided we would pull our advertising.”

      The Muskrat told Disney CEO to go fuck himself.

      On video.

      With a hard F. No dissembling.

      The Tesla board should remove him as CEO as he is clearly unstable.

      It’s mean to laugh at people self destructing.

      But anyway … fucking lol.

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      You can’t hold a firm grasp on reality if it is distorted by your massive narcissism already. He thinks anyone but the bags of shit still on his platform care.

      Twitter never actually mattered and nothing of value will be lost. He can pound sand.

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      I mean, he seemed pretty fucking high out of his gourd, so I suspect that he didn’t really know what reality he was in.

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    I have never in my life seen an interviewer try to get someone to save face like this. Elon has zero self awareness, and he’s basically behaving like a petulant child. Who the fuck sees this man as a genius?

    He needs to stop hitting the ke–actually, no. He needs to hit more of that shit. At least until the road dead ends.

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      At this point it starts to really look he wants X to bankrupt so he doesn’t have to pay

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        He never actually wanted it as a company, he only wanted to open it up because he had a misguided belief it was some evil corporation controlling what people can say and he wanted that control instead.

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          I don’t even think it was that, from what I understand he claimed that he was buying Twitter out of a desperate bid for attention. And then he was too fucking stupid you understand how Finance law works, and that you can’t just back out of a billion dollar deal last second with no warning or without probable cause.

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        His backers include the Saudis. If he doesn’t pay, they’ll whip out ol’ bonesaw on him

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        Why wouldn’t he have to pay? He already had to pay when he bought it. He put in cash and took on debt. The only real benefit to this thing tanking is he can take a massive capital loss and probably never pay income tax again.

        The downside is he would owe a lot of money to people you don’t want to owe and he looks like a bigger moron by the day. Sooner or later, Tesla investors are going to get spooked by his deranged behavior and then he’s in a world of hurt. All his wealth is tied up in Tesla and he uses his position as CEO to pump the stock with all his bullshit lies. It’s like a giant Ponzi scheme. As soon as the value comes back down to Earth and the stock is priced like a normal company he’s in big trouble.

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          probably never pay income tax again

          He doesn’t pay income tax now. He has no taxable income. The guy isn’t drawing a salary, his money comes from capital gains and he’s taxed on that.

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            Yes, that’s correct but a year or two back he did liquidate some of that money and to pay taxes. I thing he’s the record holder for having to pay the must taxes at once by a single individual.

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        He’s definitely trying to destroy Twitter on purpose.

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      I’m glad that I never fell through the hype of him being the real life Tony stark, 10 years ago people were sure this guy was going to get us on Mars and save the world. There are Comics out there of him being not only supportive of trans rights, but inventing the Tesla Model TG in order to give us all cat girls

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        I would be willing to forgive a lot if he could give us all cat girls. Not all, but a lot.

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          If you turn to me into a cat girl, it would redeem his spot in the history books in my eyes, and I would start liking him for the first time. Because I am proud to say that I never believed the pipe about this guy being the real life Tony stark.

          This guy isn’t even good enough to be the real life Norman Osborne as Iron Patriot.

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        No, his more of a Steve Jobs, in that he knows how to get the right people in a room and get investors to invest in his companies.

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        We can’t rule out the Mars thing. I’m still looking forward to it.

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          Although I imagine if SpaceX does get to Mars, it’ll be in spite of Elon, not because of him

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    The best part was the dead silence when he was waiting for laughter or something, the silence was murder on his soul. Not unlike when Dave Chapelle brought him out on stage for who knows why and he was booed like …how fucking out of touch are you Dave, and why would you bring that turd out?

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        There is probably some secret rich person drug that they’re all doing that makes them this way. We’ll find out about it in a few decades.

        Like lead in gasoline

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          It’s a lack of negative reinforcement. Normal people face negative reinforcement every single day: if you screw up you lose something. Relationships, jobs, money, etc.

          After a certain amount of wealth the negative reinforcement starts to disappear. You don’t need to give a shit about what “little people” think when you can always find an audience that agrees with you. When people will put up with your shit because you’re the one footing the bill. When expensive mistakes are pennies to you.

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            Exactly. Look at what happened with the OceanGate II Scandal. Stockton Rush, founder of the company was killed when he thought he could bend reality to his will. But the laws of physics can’t be bribed or bullied. They can be bent, but not broken. He was told by the manufacturer of the carbon fiber tube that was his submarine that it would not be suitable for use in a high pressure environment. He even fired his own safety guy because he never wanted to be told “no”.

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                The only difference between Musk and Rush is that Musk doesn’t board his own rockets if he thinks they’re going to kill him. Rush knew his little toy sub wasn’t safe. Not only that, but he convinced other rich idiots that it was and conned them into getting on board with him.

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                  Apparently Space X and Tesla both have entire protocols and teams specifically set up to minimize Musk’s influence in the companies. I once read a story by somebody who interned at Space X who was told, as an intern, not to do anything Musk ordered him to do and to run it by his boss first. The reason Twitter is burning so badly is because there’s no team there to run Musk damage control, so he’s free to do whatever he wants and suffer the consequences.

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            I just wanna say: nobody should have this much money.

            If we’re gonna make exception, make it for the doctors and surgeons. Don’t make it for the business owners who have people do all their work for them.

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            If he were some normal dork people would shun him or just tell him to shut the fuck up until the penny dropped and he moderated what he said. But since he is mega rich we get to enjoy his personality in all its terrible glory because there is nobody who can or would dare stand up to him.

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          It’s called “unwavering approval from your peers.”

          We’d all be pieces of shit if our peers cheered us on for every bad thing we did.

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      Or when he died on his ass on SNL. Or when he appeared in a Rick & Morty episode and managed to kill it by his mere presence. He thinks he is edgy, funny and cool but he isn’t. Instead he is awkward, unfunny, weird and deeply unpopular for being a dick.

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      You know looking back on the history of Dave Chappelle and his blatant misogyny, it’s not surprising in hindsight that he turned out to be a piece of shit. He doesn’t seem to be fond of the idea of minorities getting rights unless it is specifically the minority he belongs to. If this guy were a white man, he would be up on stage saying the n-word twice is often and screaming about how the radical left wants to cancel him.

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        Jesus fucking christ mate turn it in.

        He did a comedy show where he repeatedly professed respect fir trans people but criticised the way some people behave, and you’re acting like he “isn’t fond or minorities getting rights”

        It’s just fucking psychopathic gibberish with you lot.

        If this guy was white he’d be racist against blacks.

        What the fuck does that even mean?

        He’s black.

        Calm the fuck down.

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          What I am saying is that he is an incredibly hateful person, and the only reason why he Champions black civil rights or at least did during the time of the Chappelle show, is because he is black. If he wasn’t black, he would be a white supremacist, because it is in his nature to defend only that which is similar to him and Hate Everything else.

          Also yeah I’m pretty sure the guy who said that he was on team TERF is down with trans people

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          You’re absolutely correct, but the point of that person’s comment was not to say true things but to articulate displeasure.

          This place makes a lot more sense when you realize most of the crazier sounding posts are written by people who think like 12 year old girls.

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        I don’t think Dave Chappelle is a piece of shit. I think a lot of criticism towards him is exactly what his recent gripes about the alphabet people are about. He made fun of everyone and nobody cared, but when he makes fun of the LGBT then all of a sudden people like you say “he’s always been a bad guy.”

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          Punching up, punching down theory, that’s the difference between mockery and joking. One is an offense the other is just comedy. Not all comedy is made equal. There’s also making fun of a situation and making fun of a person. The quality of a good comedian is having a good feel for these nuances and when a joke is one or the other.

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          The fact that you said alphabet people at all, shows me too much of your hand. Try keeping the mask off next time.

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    Bigbrain businessman buys stable business that wasn’t profitable, promises to make it profitable. Proceeds to destroy company’s main/only[?] line of business by using it to air fascism and bigotry, complains about being “blackmailed” by business partners as they leave after he personally made said line of business literally untenable.

    Is he trying to be funny right now or something?

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        You do realize that’s a marketing line about Twitter, right? It’s a private, for-profit corporation whose entire purpose is to inspire users to give away data about themselves for free. They don’t care what you think, they care how to manipulate you into buying things from them. Go ahead, buy your justice deodorant to wear to the protest. They’re very scared. After all, the government didn’t learn anything about counterinsurgency since the 1960’s, so it’s not like they know how to use all this data and surveillance to keep an eye on us.

        Trump was one of Twitter’s biggest users and they didn’t boot him until he tried to start a fascist insurrection and, again, made it impossible not to boot him. They’re an advertising platform first and foremost, they pandered to the far right as much as to anyone else, and the right got plenty of use out of that platform even before Musk took it over.

        The only way you could think otherwise was not actually having used Twitter since like, 2011.

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            Yeah, but the fact it brought down some powerful people doesn’t mean it threatened the system as a whole. Things like Me Too become threatening to the system when they become widespread and ubiquitous and there’s a perception the ruling class isn’t interested in fixing it up. Also, many upper class people, particularly of course women, are survivors and are not interested in being further endangered by rape culture, so there was support from within the upper echelons about Me Too.

            I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, I’m saying that’s a little perpendicular to the whole question of whether or not Twitter was some kind of revolutionary working-class institution before Musk bought it. It was an influence marketplace. Everybody used it to buy and sell influence. Including progressive movements, and fascists. This had good, and bad, effects, and we shouldn’t put it on a pedestal.

            Musk bought it because he likes to very publicly fuck around with stock prices illegally, there’s been years of back and forth between him and the SEC over this. This is the man who tried to manipulate the stock price of Tesla to $420.69 a few years ago because he thought it would be funny and got charged with fraud by the SEC, then proceeded to use SNL to do a crypto pump-n-dump in real time on national television.

            His bluff just got called this very latest time, so he was forced to make the purchase, and he’s an idiot fascist.

            In reality, all the influence peddling and agitating is just moving to other platforms, and things will be more or less the same as they were after Twitter, sorry, “X” collapses.

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        Uhh, I think it was less about culture wars and more about the Saudis getting info on Arab Spring activists considering they bankrolled it.

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        That’s a losing game for them. Whackamole at best. For every social media platform that dies, several more seek to replace it.

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      He’s so painfully unfunny that it’s hard to tell sometimes if he’s making an attempt at humor.

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      Twitter has roughly 240 million daily users, about half of whom are from USA. It might be a bit early to call it a ruined company.

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        By comparison Lemmy has 30,000 active users and steadily dropping.

        It’s actually pretty funny how much of an echo chamber Lemmy can be. All I see is positive comments about how Lemmy is so great and growing, and Twitter is dead! Meanwhile it’s the opposite. Twitter is still very much alive, and Lemmy is becoming a small cul-de-sac echo chamber.

        My Lemmy app lets me tag people, which I use to tag people who are rude to others, nice to me, helpful, racist, etc, just so I can remember who was nice and who wasn’t nice to interact with, and I literally see the same handful of people in every thread, and the front page of “everything” is filled with the same people making every thread.

        Same with Reddit. We all thought Reddit was dead, and, well… it isn’t. Some days I really regret getting IP banned for shilling out Lemmy. Plenty of communities I really miss from Reddit that just simply won’t work on Lemmy, because of how Lemmy is so FOSS centric.

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    “What this advertising boycott is going to do is it’s going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail,” Musk said.

    No need, you making twitter toxic to advertisers and the resulting fallout is already very well documented.

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      Even if it wasn’t obvious that he is the problem, he’s underestimating how many people think that toxic shithole has run its course already. Those advertisers might as well be cheered for it.

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        I actually really feel bad for Grimes now. If this is at all indicative of how he acts in personal relationships, he had to have been emotionally abusing and gaslighting her.

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          She chose to stay and have more than one child with him. I don’t feel sorry for her. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice though?

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              And a lot of them can’t be saved unless they’re willing to admit there is a problem and seek help. This is a woman who has a lot of resources at her disposal that a whole lot of domestic abuse victims regardless of gender do not have.

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      The fight we had after you caught me cheating killed our relationship. It’s your fault, and I’m going to tell all your friends.

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        He’s defending himself… I guess, due to some antisemitic remarks he made recently and all his advertisers are bailing on xtwitter. So he said ‘fuck you’ to the advertisers and accused them of blackmail basically. So, ya know, billionaire fascist shit.

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          . So, ya know, billionaire fascist shit.

          AKA

          The flailing infantile tantruming of someone who is not used to facing repercussions for their actions.

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        I interpreted that as a veiled threat of reprisal against the companies boycotting it. Maybe that’s a darker way of thinking about it, but I wouldn’t be too surprised.

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          h eliterally said he had a graveyard full of his enemies.

          I dont think you are being too dark in thinking hes threatening people for not obeying his brilliant magnificence.

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            Yea. It’s a very detached and odd statement he said, but I’m still wondering why not many are drawing the line to that. For the record I doubt he can do much damage to these corporations himself.

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        “I’m not wrong, it’s everyone else’s fault for not seeing how great I am.”

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      Pretty sure they can switch advertisers and pay everyone less if they really want to stay in business.

      Heck, reducing salaries could actually make twitter profitable for once.

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      Kanye’s straight up bipolar, maybe even schizoaffective. Musk still just looks like a narcissistic asshole, and the grandiosity about “Earth” caring about Twitter is par for the course

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          As someone who takes prescribed ketamine on the regular, it blows my mind that he can still hold the shit opinions he has. I only ever feel more connected to everyone and more present with the small joys around me.

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            I’m guessing he takes it in vastly more quantities than you and also that it would affect someone who is already an asshole narcissist a different way than it would someone like yourself.

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      A recent comment of mine:

      In an old interview, Mr. Narcissus [Elon Musk] said he may have bipolar disorder; he said he experiences “great highs, terrible lows, and unrelenting stress”.

      He has doubts because his highs and lows follow events in his life, whereas episodes from bipolar disorder often appear without triggers. […]

      We’d know if he went for an evaluation/possible diagnosis, but I cannot even imagine him doing it.

      Kanye West is usually manic when he acts this way. I guess this supports Musk’s suspicion.

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      Because Trump, as weirdly as he may go about it, has made his way through life on his (inherited fortune from his from his crook of a father and) force of personality.

      He gets people to do what he wants them to do by projecting an image, a brand, through the way he acts and speaks. Look at The Apprentice. He’s playing this role that says (without saying out loud), “Look at me. I’m a straight shooting, no nonsense business leader and my personality and business sense have brought me success, money, fame, luxury, and power. You want that too? You want to be like me? Then do what I say.”

      Not saying it’s authentic or that it should work, but Trump’s entire existence is based on this tactic. He’s constantly projecting an image, and it’s that projection of that image that gets him his way. His force of personality is just as, if not more central to his power as his money (make no mistake, the money is necessary too).

      This, in contrast with Musk, who’s typically cultivated his following based on ideas and drive. He gets people to go along with him because he’s seen as a modern day Edison (and to be fair, the comparison, in some ways, is apt… especially the less flattering ones), a groundbreaker, rules breaker…a visionary.

      Simply put, among the people who follow these guys, people follow Musk for what he says (in terms of his big ideas), people follow Trump for the way he acts (in terms of the image he projects). It takes a strong set of blinders to ignore Musk’s sharing of his worse ideas and Trump’s less than impressive antics, but their respective cults have had plenty of practice in those mental gymnastics.

      Thus you’re left with the mind boggling (to the rest of us) situation where Musk’s followers don’t care how he acts, because they are laser focused on his ideas, while Trump supporters couldn’t care less about the crazy or incoherent stuff he says, so long as he keeps projecting that macho, confident persona.

      So that’s how Musk gets away with being “Trump, but more childish”: he’s not depending on the personality like Trump, so he can act that way without turning his supporters off, because they don’t care about that in the first place.

      Musk’s entire angle is "it’s okay to be a humongous asshole if you achieve your goals.

      Trump’s is, “It’s okay to be a humongous asshole, as long as you can sell it as arrogance bred from success.”

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        This is spot on accurate, Donald Trump is a Salesman who sells the character of trump. He knows that No Nonsense billionaires with a genius intellect who are well first in the art of the deal do not exist, but he will sell you the fantasy.

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            Funny enough O’Leary will also tell you he has lost money and that its a gambling game of trying to be smart and cautious which is what makes hime unpopular because he is too honest that you can lose.

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      They were the real geniuses.

      “Elon Musk is big smart the book - $30!”

      “Wowowowowow hands over $30 dollars” x 1,000,000+ sales

      30 million dollars.

      And all it cost was some paper, ink and your integrity as an author.

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          Yeah, it’s the same for me, I mean I didn’t even hate Elmo that much when that episode came out, but I remember thinking that it was probably a bit premature and wouldn’t age well… I couldn’t have imagined how right I was.

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        schadenfreude.googled it. Adding it to my lexicon. Gonna be a challenge to learn it by a few days of overuse but I’ll manage.

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          To me it’s such a cool word, because I live in Denmark, and the German word adopted among English speaker is near identical to the Danish equivalent “skadefryd”.
          Maybe not obvious from the spelling for someone not familiar with both German and Danish.
          It’s funny when words spread between languages. Not just new words, but old words that describe concepts.
          Schadenfreude is a very nice to have in your vocabulary, but if you want something even better, you should absolutely have “hygge” too, that’s an even better word, and that’s 100% danish. 😀
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygge
          The article says it’s also Norwegian, which is true, but we were originally 1 nation, and I’m probably a little bit biased in that regard.

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        My guess is he probably knows more about it, than anyone else alive on earth today.

        This is musk, not trump

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          The link I provided quotes him for saying:

          “I think I know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on earth.”

          So this is both of them, and frankly there is very little difference between them. Musk just used to manage a better front, but he has thrown the mask.

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      His perspective is like a kid kicking a sandcastle that he gave another kid $10 to buy because he thought it was neat.

      What does he care if Twitter doesn’t make money? He is personally set for life, and the world would basically have to end for that to change.

      Why does someone worth 11 digits of greenback currency have to understand what brand safe content is? He could shoot a man in the middle of the street and toss his equivalent of pennies to the witnesses and never see consequences.

      All of this criticism he’s seeing on public airwaves, and his reaction, is revealing him for what he actually is: The single most richly spoiled baby in all of human history.

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      I think he was always like this. It’s just he’s now ALWAYS in the limelight, and it’s much more visible.

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    Nepo baby held accountable for his actions, thinks it’s unfair he’s responsible for them.

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    I say “Go f…k yourself if you are still advertizing with this guy.”

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    This barrier of capitalism loving fascists finding that capitalism works best with maximum participation therefore maximum diversity is infinitely entertaining to me.